Q: Won't high-level IT jobs need to remain here in the U.S.? Won't
companies need project managers and architects within the company's
walls?
People who are facing the customers, facing the decision makers in large
corporations are going to be required. They need to actively redefine
their roles. Over the next 40 years, there will be a very big drift...
Those roles will start shifting outside the United States. When that
happens, I'd say the process will accelerate very quickly.
Q: Are you saying that U.S. IT workers will end up moving to India to
find work?
For me, that is very much an undercurrent that has not been looked at
realistically. It's the only thing that carries its own solution. There
is no reason why high-skilled workers can't move to India where the work
will be done. There will be a high-level physical transfer. They will be
connecting with the Indian high-tech machine. In the next five years, it
will happen virtually. Americans will be working for an Indian company
but still will be based in the United States. Later on, the choice may
be for American IT people with a high-level of familiarity of the
American market to actually go to India.
Q: But if companies are largely sending work to India because it's
cheaper there, wouldn't U.S. workers going to India expect a huge pay
cut?
There will be a lot of upward leveling of pay in India. There also will
be an encouragement for people to take lower wages but benefit from
lower taxes. And they would benefit much more by working in India than
in having no job.
Q: Do you think the U.S. government could be, or should be, doing
more about this situation?
Definitely. This is one of my biggest complaints. Someone should have
been explaining what is going on so people aren't side swiped. The
government is pretending there is no problem or that they can block the
problem out of existence with legislation. Not allowing job insurance
for the IT profession is a problem. There is an absolute need for that.
If this wave is accepted as being inevitable, then it's important to try
to ride the wave... They need to give incentives to Indian companies to
hire people in the U.S. and that's just not happening.
Q: In your book, you say U.S. students will stop majoring in computer
science when they see that there are fewer jobs available to them here.
Is the U.S. moving toward a time when offshoring isn't a choice but a
necessity because we no longer have trained people who can do the job
here?
If students stop studying IT, there will be no choice but to go even
faster into India. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Students
should not be looking just at jobs here in the U.S. Why don't they look
beyond the U.S.? There are a lot of jobs -- they just might not be here.
Q: It sounds like you're predicting that the United States is moving
into what will be a difficult time.
Oh, definitely. There is no question about that... Somebody needs to
start talking about what is in the next stage. There obviously is a kind
of numbing about what is happening here. There is a profound structural
crisis coming. What must be figured out is how this can be proactively
handled.